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bennygesserit

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Surface Carp

maybe this should be in corase fishing but never mind.

Decided to ride home along the canal today and outside Sainsburys , if you know the stretch , I saw a truly massive carp lolling around in the lily pads.

I have seen them regularly over the years there , my Daughter even touched one of them in the margins once. It had a huge head and I reckon easy 15 lb , but I'm not a good judge.

 

So nipped back around 7 and pinged some floating pellets out and a few pieces of bread , saw on or two fish roll in the pads , I think they took some pellets , the moorhens had the bread.

Now I waited there about 30 minutes - am I being too impatient , would it take longer to get them feeding ? What would your advice be ?

Also to land them I would have to drag them through the pads , I didn't actually set the rod up. Bad form to fish in those circumstances ?

 

 

Of course the conclusion is that if there is no God head , no guiding hand , no mystical force , then we are all automata clinging to a rock , whizzing through space ,hurtling and clinging on to some God forsaken ride, chemical accidents , accidentally chemically aware , peeking at conciousness , trapped like rats in a rat trap.

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mrwell

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mrwell says:

Re: Surface Carp

Benny in this weather the Carp are not going to be intrested in any bait although worth a try i guess,just feed up and wait thats all you can do,dog feeder might be better than pellets

I make mistakes i am only human well half the time.

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deerstalker

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deerstalker says:

Re: Surface Carp

Benny, like Stan says its unlikely you'd do any good in this weather. It reminded me of a few years ago we went to a new venue[ to us] literally hundreds of carp cruising near the surface,on a hot day, not one take in 4 hours.  

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tankie63

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tankie63 says:

Re: Surface Carp

deerstalker said:

Benny, like Stan says its unlikely you'd do any good in this weather. It reminded me of a few years ago we went to a new venue[ to us] literally hundreds of carp cruising near the surface,on a hot day, not one take in 4 hours.  


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It can often be very productive to try a large bright fly in those conditions, have done it a few times and had some success.

tankie63.

 

Bernie (Tankie) Webb. Born to fish, forced to work.

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bennygesserit

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Re: Surface Carp

earlier this week when it was hot I walked down by the Walsall Gallery canal basin and saw 3 or 4 large carp , there were some other anglers who had stopped to have a look so we had a chat. 

 

I am still none the wiser really , in a commercial I have got them feeding off the surface , but how do you go about it on the canal ? 

From riding my bike and walking the dog I know 2 spots where I regularly see carp basking and I have sat at both pinging dog bisuits or pellets out , one for a couple of hours and the other for less time, and they don't start feeding. 

Has anyone had success with canal carp off the top ? How did you go about it ? 

Of course the conclusion is that if there is no God head , no guiding hand , no mystical force , then we are all automata clinging to a rock , whizzing through space ,hurtling and clinging on to some God forsaken ride, chemical accidents , accidentally chemically aware , peeking at conciousness , trapped like rats in a rat trap.

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bennygesserit

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Re: Surface Carp

 bump 

Of course the conclusion is that if there is no God head , no guiding hand , no mystical force , then we are all automata clinging to a rock , whizzing through space ,hurtling and clinging on to some God forsaken ride, chemical accidents , accidentally chemically aware , peeking at conciousness , trapped like rats in a rat trap.

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funkymonkey

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funkymonkey says:

Re: Surface Carp

Surface fishing is 1 of the most exciting ways to catch carp, few simple tricks to help you,

find the fish, snags, lillies, tree line etc,

feed as many swims as you can (if poss) with a handful of biscuits even when bread fishing,

 suspenders,controllers, are all good in open water, i like to freeline it allows you to fish the real snaggy swims with out fear of losing tackle,

i use a 2.75lb tc rod, and 12 main line which i attach a 30ft 10lb braid as my hook link, (also helps casting) to this i add 3 dog biscuits (also helps casting and more confident takes due to not seeing the hook) some will say this overpowered BUT when you snag fish you need good tackle and anything less WILL NOT DO,

with this set up i can cast the biscuits a good 30/40 foot with ease, and can safely remove the fish from the snags,

simple point list for feeding which is where the time goes thats why feeding a few swims helps keep the fishing active for longer

1,travel light

2,dog biscuits and bread never bread on its own

3,feed as many swims as you can with an handful in each

4,watch water can take hrs to get them feedin confidently

5,keep feeding ALL your choosen swims

6,once you catch a fish feed swim and leave and go use 1 of the others

7,keep feeding

8,hold on tight snag fishing you have no time for pods and bank sticks so keep rod close and be fast

9,enjoy it takes sometime to read the swims correctly and to build fishes trust (which is part of the fun tricking them into taking a bait right in front of you)

10,keep feedin ( i cannot express this enough)

 

this is my own technic and it proves successful to me and with the 2hrs after work i get in the evenings is the most effective, no doubt it will be poopooed by some but i say come watch me on the pond and i will out fish anyone using this method

i hope this gives you some ideas on where to begin for surface fishing and good luck

funky;)

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mrwell

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mrwell says:

Re: Surface Carp

Excellent post Funky,spot on with your feeding as well can't poopoo anything you say

I make mistakes i am only human well half the time.

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bennygesserit

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Re: Surface Carp

funkymonkey said:

Surface fishing is 1 of the most exciting ways to catch carp, few simple tricks to help you,

find the fish, snags, lillies, tree line etc,

feed as many swims as you can (if poss) with a handful of biscuits even when bread fishing,

 suspenders,controllers, are all good in open water, i like to freeline it allows you to fish the real snaggy swims with out fear of losing tackle,

i use a 2.75lb tc rod, and 12 main line which i attach a 30ft 10lb braid as my hook link, (also helps casting) to this i add 3 dog biscuits (also helps casting and more confident takes due to not seeing the hook) some will say this overpowered BUT when you snag fish you need good tackle and anything less WILL NOT DO,

with this set up i can cast the biscuits a good 30/40 foot with ease, and can safely remove the fish from the snags,

simple point list for feeding which is where the time goes thats why feeding a few swims helps keep the fishing active for longer

1,travel light

2,dog biscuits and bread never bread on its own

3,feed as many swims as you can with an handful in each

4,watch water can take hrs to get them feedin confidently

5,keep feeding ALL your choosen swims

6,once you catch a fish feed swim and leave and go use 1 of the others

7,keep feeding

8,hold on tight snag fishing you have no time for pods and bank sticks so keep rod close and be fast

9,enjoy it takes sometime to read the swims correctly and to build fishes trust (which is part of the fun tricking them into taking a bait right in front of you)

10,keep feedin ( i cannot express this enough)

 

this is my own technic and it proves successful to me and with the 2hrs after work i get in the evenings is the most effective, no doubt it will be poopooed by some but i say come watch me on the pond and i will out fish anyone using this method

i hope this gives you some ideas on where to begin for surface fishing and good luck


Funky - brilliant thanks for that very helpfull post and great to see you posting again ! 

Of course the conclusion is that if there is no God head , no guiding hand , no mystical force , then we are all automata clinging to a rock , whizzing through space ,hurtling and clinging on to some God forsaken ride, chemical accidents , accidentally chemically aware , peeking at conciousness , trapped like rats in a rat trap.

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